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| North Korea threatens to nuke US for military exercises |
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27 July 2010 - 09:46:32 (448)
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27 July 2010 - 10:51:40 (494)
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| It's unlikely any government or nation will ever use nuclear weapons (again). The only real threat of nuclear attack is some organization that would essentially be immune from nuclear retaliation. |
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27 July 2010 - 11:08:49 (506)
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| trancension wrote: | | It's unlikely any government or nation will ever use nuclear weapons (again). The only real threat of nuclear attack is some organization that would essentially be immune from nuclear retaliation. |
aka North Korea...If an American soldier went to North Korea and so much as shot a pea at someone through a straw we'd have everybody and their brother screaming about the filthy baby killing Americans invading a peaceful nation and slaughtering their women and children for x natural resource that x politician is profiting from. They probably wouldn't scream as loud as last time because the current president (oddly enough forgetting that only Congress can declare war, but we'll set that aside for now because everybody else has for the last 8 years) is a bit more popular with "the world" than the last one.
I don't know why we have to do military exercises there anyway, it's pretty much just asking for trouble. Clinton said she won't back down despite the threats which is incredibly stupid decision making given the current state of geopolitics.
When it comes to foreign policy, the US is damned either way. If we back down then we look weak...if we don't then we're murdering babies and massacring more brown people. The US can't win no matter what it does in the court of world opinion, so it might as well just do what's in its own best interest because they're going to hate us no matter what. That said, I don't see how doing military drills with South Korea under threat of nuclear bombardment is in the country's best interest unless Clinton and Obama are scared the rest of the world is going to say we're "weak"...big deal, haven't we gotten to a point yet where we've realized the above and just don't care anymore? |
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| RichardClairemont How u like me now, punk? |
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27 July 2010 - 14:12:22 (633)
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| RichardClairemont wrote: | | trancension wrote: | | It's unlikely any government or nation will ever use nuclear weapons (again). The only real threat of nuclear attack is some organization that would essentially be immune from nuclear retaliation. |
aka North Korea...If an American soldier went to North Korea and so much as shot a pea at someone through a straw we'd have everybody and their brother screaming about the filthy baby killing Americans invading a peaceful nation and slaughtering their women and children for x natural resource that x politician is profiting from. They probably wouldn't scream as loud as last time because the current president (oddly enough forgetting that only Congress can declare war, but we'll set that aside for now because everybody else has for the last 8 years) is a bit more popular with "the world" than the last one.
I don't know why we have to do military exercises there anyway, it's pretty much just asking for trouble. Clinton said she won't back down despite the threats which is incredibly stupid decision making given the current state of geopolitics.
When it comes to foreign policy, the US is damned either way. If we back down then we look weak...if we don't then we're murdering babies and massacring more brown people. The US can't win no matter what it does in the court of world opinion, so it might as well just do what's in its own best interest because they're going to hate us no matter what. That said, I don't see how doing military drills with South Korea under threat of nuclear bombardment is in the country's best interest unless Clinton and Obama are scared the rest of the world is going to say we're "weak"...big deal, haven't we gotten to a point yet where we've realized the above and just don't care anymore? |
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27 July 2010 - 15:31:09 (688)
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| RichardClairemont wrote: |
When it comes to foreign policy, the US is damned either way. If we back down then we look weak...if we don't then we're murdering babies and massacring more brown people. |
How do you look weak? And when has the US ever stepped down? Your country's external politics are pretty much the source of suffering for most of the world, causing wars, selling weapons to both sides, breaking up country's, fuelling uprisings, installing dictatorships, etc. The world wishes you'd step down, stfu, and keep to yourselves for a change.
And what are brown people? Gingerbread men? |
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27 July 2010 - 18:24:38 (808)
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Don't you think that most of the world's suffering is a bit of an exaggeration? |
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27 July 2010 - 20:02:32 (876)
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Wherever there are wars (including cold ones), you've got American war-mongerers selling weapons under the tables to both sides.
You're not old enough to know shapeshifter. |
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27 July 2010 - 21:34:31 (940)
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| RichardClairemont wrote: | | trancension wrote: | | It's unlikely any government or nation will ever use nuclear weapons (again). The only real threat of nuclear attack is some organization that would essentially be immune from nuclear retaliation. |
aka North Korea... |
If North Korea nukes us, we nuke them, and nuclear holocaust ensues. Like I said, no nation will nuke anyone. Everyone loses if two nations start using nuclear weapons. |
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28 July 2010 - 00:01:58 (043)
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| Mythological wrote: | Wherever there are wars (including cold ones), you've got American war-mongerers selling weapons under the tables to both sides.
You're not old enough to know shapeshifter. |
That's your explanation to justify this:
| Mythological wrote: | | Your country's external politics are pretty much the source of suffering for most of the world... |
Are you serious? You think Russia doesn't do the same thing? Or Germany? Or Mexico? Or Turkey (you'll probably say they do it...)
So if the US had never existed then everything on the Earth would be absolutely peachy keen with no suffering?
You are either:
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B. Seriously mind-warped from the Alex Jones conspiracy garbage that you consume day in and day out...every single political argument we have you always go about espousing something he said a year ago. |
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| RichardClairemont How u like me now, punk? |
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28 July 2010 - 02:36:55 (150)
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| RichardClairemont wrote: | | Are you serious? You think Russia doesn't do the same thing? |
Putin is no angel, and Russia doesn't live in a democracy, but he's still the greatest politician Russia has known, surpassing Gorbachev. Still Russia has never reached USA's attempts in sticking its' nose everywhere in world affairs.
| RichardClairemont wrote: | | Or Germany? Or Mexico? Or Turkey (you'll probably say they do it...) |
Why are you mentioning other countries, are you looking for the kind of justfication "they've done it, so then so should we?"
Funny how you have such a love affair with Turkey, you seem to be brown-nosing them at any given chance. All the Turks have done is butcher people. I said it to a Turk's face in Turkey once, he looked at me, laughed, nodded in agreement and replied sheepishly: "killing is what we do best". But we're straying from the original topic.
| RichardClairemont wrote: | | So if the US had never existed then everything on the Earth would be absolutely peachy keen with no suffering? |
If the US kept to itself and its own affairs, like most countries do, the planet would be a much more peaceful.
| RichardClairemont wrote: | You are either:
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B. Seriously mind-warped from the Alex Jones conspiracy garbage that you consume day in and day out...every single political argument we have you always go about espousing something he said a year ago. |
No, I just utterly dislike your country's external policies. A lot of people have died because of your nation's crusader pirate-brigand ways.
I've never heard of Alex Jones and have no idea about what conspiracy you are talking about btw. Whatever I've expressed have been through my own experiences. |
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28 July 2010 - 02:41:10 (153)
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| Mythological wrote: |
| RichardClairemont wrote: | | Or Germany? Or Mexico? Or Turkey (you'll probably say they do it...) |
Why are you mentioning other countries, are you looking for the kind of justfication "they've done it, so then so should we?" |
I mentioned those other countries to point out your hypocrisy. Every country on the globe does that kind of stuff under the rug, but all the rest of them except the US get a pass from you. So you're not really against war, people getting killed, or anything like that, you just love any opportunity that presents itself to bash the US. If you actually READ what I said in mt first post in this thread then you'd see that we really don't disagree on this all that much. But you don't really care about that, you just see any possible little opening to dive in there and stick it to the US and you do it, that's what makes you a biased little troll with no credibility whatsoever. You're so incredibly jealous of the success of the United States that it kills you.
...and Turkey is a great country with awesome people. I've actually managed to get through a conversation with many Turks without some crap like you spew all the time against the US coming out of their mouth. So far from how you've represented Greece...meh... |
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| RichardClairemont How u like me now, punk? |
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28 July 2010 - 05:17:39 (262)
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| Mythological wrote: |
Putin is no angel, and Russia doesn't live in a democracy, but he's still the greatest politician Russia has known, surpassing Gorbachev. Still Russia has never reached USA's attempts in sticking its' nose everywhere in world affairs. | You're right.  Russia just attempted to put all of Europe and the rest of the world under communist rule. The US has to be worse than that.. Cause, everyone knows that a free society can not control it self. It would have been better if we had communist rule to govern our daily lives.  We REALLY fucked things up by being a major factor of winning the cold war for you guys...
| RichardClairemont wrote: | | Or Germany? Or Mexico? Or Turkey (you'll probably say they do it...) |
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Why are you mentioning other countries, are you looking for the kind of justfication "they've done it, so then so should we?" | I think what he's saying is that you need to look at yourself before you start pointing the finger. Correct me if I'm wrong, Richard...
| RichardClairemont wrote: | | So if the US had never existed then everything on the Earth would be absolutely peachy keen with no suffering? |
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If the US kept to itself and its own affairs, like most countries do, the planet would be a much more peaceful. | Yes, you are right again.  The whole world would be under "peaceful" communist rule and the people from Greece would be subject to the citizens of Russia\USSR.
| RichardClairemont wrote: | You are either:
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B. Seriously mind-warped from the Alex Jones conspiracy garbage that you consume day in and day out...every single political argument we have you always go about espousing something he said a year ago. |
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No, I just utterly dislike your country's external policies. A lot of people have died because of your nation's crusader pirate-brigand ways. | Yet it is YOU guys in Europe who always asks for our help anytime shit hits the fan. So, if we don't get involved, we're the bad guys but if we "do" get involved, NOW we're imperialists! We can't win. But you are right. And I do wish the next time the whole world comes begging us to stop the next Hitler, that we would just tell you guys to go fuck yourselves. But that won't happen. But still...It would be nice if we were a neutral country and we just worried about ourselves. Why should we worry about anyone else if we're not gonna be appreciated? |
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| why worry about a bunch of Koreans... next week they'll come with a new story. |
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| trancension wrote: | | RichardClairemont wrote: | | trancension wrote: | | It's unlikely any government or nation will ever use nuclear weapons (again). The only real threat of nuclear attack is some organization that would essentially be immune from nuclear retaliation. |
aka North Korea... |
If North Korea nukes us, we nuke them, and nuclear holocaust ensues. Like I said, no nation will nuke anyone. Everyone loses if two nations start using nuclear weapons. |
Ironically, Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD) served as a mechanism to motivate both the Soviet Union and the US to refrain from the use of nuclear weaponry during the Cold War. But when you're dealing with a psychotic leader like Kim Jong Il, that's no longer the case.
| Mythological wrote: | | RichardClairemont wrote: | | Are you serious? You think Russia doesn't do the same thing? |
Putin is no angel, and Russia doesn't live in a democracy, but he's still the greatest politician Russia has known, surpassing Gorbachev. Still Russia has never reached USA's attempts in sticking its' nose everywhere in world affairs. |
Surpassing Gorbachev?
No way! |
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| North Koreans are a bunch of pussies. There I said it. |
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