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| So yeah, I'm pretty much a noob. I need help constructing what my friend and i refer to as the "whoosh" They usually come in at the end of a frame or climax or at the end of a drop as a way to introduce the climax of a song. The whoosh (which sounds like white noise or something) is usually accompanied with a snare or a kick for anywhere from 8-16 beats. This gives a nice climactic effect. This is one of the oldest tricks in the book and I don't intend to overuse it, but it would be nice to get it right for once. Also, with the WHOOSH, i can't get get my levels to stay right. It seems like with all that noise going on, sounds tend to distort. This trance shit is lucky I love it so much or I would have given up a long time ago. Glad i'm still young. Tools I have to work with are Reason 3.0, Albino 3, Novation V station, and Battery 2(all of which is run through Cubase.) |
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29 November 2006 - 05:22:59 (265)
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| it is white noise. you just use the filter & amp envelopes to change how fast/slow the "whoosh" is. |
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29 November 2006 - 06:38:44 (318)
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| hmph what should my final decibal level be before the mixdown? |
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29 November 2006 - 07:07:23 (338)
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well if you are mastering yourself, preferably closest to 0 db as possible without distorting the sound. if you arent id leave it at about -3 db so you can give a mastering engineer shit to work with.
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29 November 2006 - 08:01:38 (376)
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| Matt B. (Direkt) wrote: | | hmph what should my final decibal level be before the mixdown? |
Final level of what? The woosh? Just set your kick to peak at about -8.5 dBFS and use this as your reference point. It may mean the woosh will end up around -10 dBFS or -15 dBFS (I really have no idea, so use your ears).
As for the final mix, if you start out with your kick peaking around -8.5 dBFS, you should end up with a mix peak level no higher than -3.0 dBFS, and you shouldn't get any clipping that way. |
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29 November 2006 - 08:32:59 (397)
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| Atlantis_AR wrote: | | Matt B. (Direkt) wrote: | | hmph what should my final decibal level be before the mixdown? |
Final level of what? The woosh? Just set your kick to peak at about -8.5 dBFS and use this as your reference point. It may mean the woosh will end up around -10 dBFS or -15 dBFS (I really have no idea, so use your ears).
As for the final mix, if you start out with your kick peaking around -8.5 dBFS, you should end up with a mix peak level no higher than -3.0 dBFS, and you shouldn't get any clipping that way. |
Strange, I get kicks that peak at -3dB... AR, is there anything wrong with my tracks? |
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29 November 2006 - 11:09:07 (506)
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29 November 2006 - 11:13:43 (509)
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| djsentinel wrote: | | Atlantis_AR wrote: | | Matt B. (Direkt) wrote: | | hmph what should my final decibal level be before the mixdown? |
Final level of what? The woosh? Just set your kick to peak at about -8.5 dBFS and use this as your reference point. It may mean the woosh will end up around -10 dBFS or -15 dBFS (I really have no idea, so use your ears).
As for the final mix, if you start out with your kick peaking around -8.5 dBFS, you should end up with a mix peak level no higher than -3.0 dBFS, and you shouldn't get any clipping that way. |
Strange, I get kicks that peak at -3dB... AR, is there anything wrong with my tracks? |
For the master they would - usually somewhere between -3.0 and -0.2 dBFS. But you want to keep the mix at least 3.0 dB below clipping, hence the -8.5 dBFS peak level so you get about 5.5 dB of headroom to build the rest of the mix on. If your kick is peaking at -3.0 dBFS prior to mastering, adding the bass or lead will surely clip the waveform - or they're sitting too low in the mix. |
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29 November 2006 - 12:48:42 (575)
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Sorry, one question..what is the difference between dB and dBFS??
Another one..any thread with those tips to keep the mis ready to master?
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29 November 2006 - 14:52:38 (661)
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29 November 2006 - 18:54:16 (829)
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29 November 2006 - 23:44:02 (030)
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| thanks a lot! all of this will give me something to do tonight after class. so i'm assuming the proper terminology for "whoosh" is actually "sweep." |
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30 November 2006 - 00:05:25 (045)
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| Ruhe wrote: | | There are no rules for making music.. just follow your ears and feelings! |
Don't give me that line  |
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30 November 2006 - 00:15:42 (052)
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I thought this fit well with the most recent posts
Maxine Greene wrote, "Works of art are, visibly and palpably, human achievements, renderings of the ways in which aspects of reality have impinged upon human consciousness. What distinguishes one art from from another (music from poetry) is the mode of rendering, the medium used, and the qualities explored. But all art forms must be encountered as achievements that can only be brought to significant life when human beings engage with them imaginatively."[/b] |
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30 November 2006 - 09:15:46 (427)
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| DJ_Synergic wrote: | | Sorry, one question..what is the difference between dB and dBFS?? |
I guess I'm trying to differentiate between peak level and fader positions, but maybe I'm making things more confusing than they already are.
| Quote: | | Another one..any thread with those tips to keep the mis ready to master? |
What kind of tips? Just keep the mix at least 3.0 dB below clipping and make it sound as good as possible. Don't put any effects on the master channel, and render at the highest bit depth (and sample rate, if possible) as possible. Also disable dithering if you're rendering >16 bit, and usually when rendering >24 bit, as you should only be adding dither at the end. |
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