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08 June 2006 - 18:50:42 (826)
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I give it two more hours before Frostdude wakes up and finds this thread.
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All hell will be unleashed then! |
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I give it two more hours before Frostdude wakes up and finds this thread.
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All hell will be unleashed then!
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No, the evil of hell will be unleashed upon trance.nu. May we pray to God for strength to survive the appocalypse. |
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| aijal thinks trance has largely gone to shit. |
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08 June 2006 - 23:49:29 (034)
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I give it two more hours before Frostdude wakes up and finds this thread.
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All hell will be unleashed then!
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No, the evil of hell will be unleashed upon trance.nu. May we pray to God for strength to survive the appocalypse.
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Yeah. Time of the end begun two days ago. Now it is time for hell to be unleashed. |
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09 June 2006 - 00:02:49 (043)
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| I know Cor Fijnerman did quite a lot of the earlier stuff with/for him like the Hammock Brothers, Allure etc, and the other crap from the magik albums, don't think he owrked with him much after that though? And I always thought Geert Huwhatshisnamenik only did a few of the more epic stringy thngs like Magik Journey, I may well be wrong though. |
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11 June 2006 - 00:52:57 (078)
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what about his "In My Memory" album?, who made that?
would really much like to know what really happens in that tiesto studio, does tiesto just sit behind his engineer and say "hey, that sounds cool, use that?" or does he actually produce (or at least produce some of it) on his own`? |
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11 June 2006 - 01:33:43 (106)
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| I think some of the recent stuff, for example the Parade of the Athletes album, had a strong influence from Montana, and I know Cor Fijneman engineered for Tijs on Sparkles and Theme From Norfjell but I really don't think either of those guys are good enough producers to have made the likes of the Silence remix, the Surreal/Goldenscan remixes etc... Those tracks really are the work of a fabulous engineer.
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I agree w/ that (Italics and Bold font statement), Micra! 
I'm curious to know who produce those fines/ superb remixes for Tiesto including the super-fabulous, "Shining". |
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11 June 2006 - 06:40:44 (319)
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Yes, I thought that until recently, but I had an interesting conversation with someone about Tijs at the weekend who gave me some interesting info about what happens in the Tiesto studio.
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*** Maybe strange for all the viewers of this topic, but I have heard recently that all the remixes which Tijs Verwest did produced under his name from 1998 till spring 2005 has been engineerd by Dennis Waakop Reijers and Hans Willem Mallon.
All the (re)mixes, yes inclusive Silence, Surreal, more than 68 remixes and all his 3 artist albums have been remixed and produced and engineerd by those two guys,
Tiesto only paid the bills............................. 
Please correct my if I am wrong, but Tiesto ever made any remix himself from 1998 till 2005, due to his schedule of touring, he has not much time for producing anything, keeps the fact that he is a briljant DJ and very good preformer ***
Those two former friends, who made music together for more than 10 years, have now been separated, due to some major problems about the production credits of all the tracks, which they claimed all about having the production credits for themself. 
How this has happens, I can't tell you, because I don't know, I only can tell here what I've heard recently
If you will compare the sound from those two producers, you can listen to the track binary star, release Black Hole recordings (99), composed and arranged and produced by those two brilliant producers, who did have done all the heavy work of mixing, producing and mainly all parts of tiesto's artist albums ***
I don't know who engineers the majority of Tiesto tracks. I know someone who does, but they wont tell me.
*** I would like to know, who has told you, because what I have heard from inside BH Recordings, that it is a very hugh secret that has to be kept under any circumstances *** 
I think some of the recent stuff, for example the Parade of the Athletes album, had a strong influence from Montana, and I know Cor Fijneman engineered for Tijs on Sparkles and Theme From Norfjell but I really don't think either of those guys are good enough producers to have made the likes of the Silence remix, the Surreal/Goldenscan remixes etc... Those tracks really are the work of a fabulous engineer.[/quote]
*** Recent stuff ??  , the complete shit has been recorded in the early months of 2004, so even Adagio for Strings is very good but ancient as my grand Pa's chair....  .
As I mentioned above, neither Cor Fijneman or Montana did have anything to do with the productions all over the years, Fijneman did work together till spring 2005, with or Dennis or Hw for his own career, but I am not shure, even Ronald van Gelderen did nothing more then delivering the remix parts, but due to the fact that the remix was better than the original, Tiesto kept the remix for his own work.  Montana has been out of sight since ...........  
Also there has been produced a vocal (re)mix of Urban Train, vocals supported by Kirshty H, the've changed the name of the track, she originaly sung, Urban Train and not (S)uburban Train... , after this disput, the've skipped the vocals and leave the melody for the main theme, very innovated.................  ***
well, as i said.. geert huinink is my guess. He (and alco lammers) are behind Photon Project.. and Enlightnemnt and illumination are both powerful tracks so they sure know how to make powerful music [/quote]
*** Geert Huinink and Alco Lammers, have been never ( seriously )  involved with the prodcution of the (re)mixes under the name DJ Tiesto,....during the working progress which have been recorded on the commercial CD's or DVD's.
They have released some remixes for Magic Music, but all very poor of innovation and they never reached the level of quality of it's original from DJ tiesto, in other words, the Hammond brothers are nice, but far from the quality from those two guys I mentioned before.....
The reason that Geert Huinink has some composing credits, is that he provided Tiesto with some well known classical compositions, like e.g Bach, Rachmaninov and Mozart all those elements has been constructed in the songs those two guys produced for Tiesto in the year 2004.
In Tiesto's mind of view, Geert Huinink is capable of reproducing classical theme's and playing the first two strokes of my first piano player..........
Mostly all those tracks has been used on the album, parade of the athletes and for the tracks like e.g., Forever today, listen careful to the compositions and you will notify all different classical influences, nice but composed by anyone, than those classical composers from the past. ***  
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Kindness at Irish Home: I have to admit that I've heard the name of Dennis Waakop Reijers before and that this release ( http://www.discogs.com/release/54942 ) should be an interesting vinyl to listen to and compare with the later Tiësto tracks.
But I've never heard of the name of Hans Willem Mallon before myself. But the facts and information posted above here, sound very interesting to be honest ...
So there will be more facts, since you write 'to be continued'? |
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11 June 2006 - 10:48:43 (492)
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| Now THAT was the kind of well informed response I was hoping for, if there is more to follow I would appreciate that as well, nice one! |
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11 June 2006 - 10:51:32 (494)
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BTW, if there really was a fight with the 2 'old' producers and the left Black Hole, then that would explain why Tiësto is busy now with BT in the studio for his new artist album...
P.S. I'm not bashing Tiësto or something, but I just think this is an interesting thread. I still like a lot of the productions / remixes that are released under the Tiësto alias. If I didn't, I wouldn't have such a large Tiësto collection |
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Ronald van Gelderen isn't it? |
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wow! that's some interesting facts (?)!
even though tiesto hasn't done shit i really couldn't care less. It's all about the music
and that Denzel D ep is amazing! |
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Ronald van Gelderen isn't it?
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Correct! |
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11 June 2006 - 16:10:57 (715)
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| very interesting information indeed i would never had guessed that, i always just assumed it was some of his black hole accomplices like montana fijneman etc. |
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