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PostPosted: 07 July 2010 - 20:35:51 (899)  Reply with quote
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Should I be using the master tempo function or not?

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PostPosted: 07 July 2010 - 21:31:50 (938)  Reply with quote
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if you make music - won't use it, if you make fx sounds, horror,noises and other ... - you can , but it is better to have a fixed bpm setting

personally i use bpm automation to record a new sound, which sounds stupid at even 200 bpm happy and then I resample to 134 bpm for proper usage in future tracks

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PostPosted: 08 July 2010 - 00:10:33 (048)  Reply with quote
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I think he's talking about djing, not producing^^

No, don't use it, imo it sounds really bad - and I have yet to see a trance DJ who uses it. So just turn it off thumbsup

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PostPosted: 08 July 2010 - 22:24:33 (975)  Reply with quote
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Haha yeah sorry, maybe need to be more specific. Talking about Master Tempo found on the turntable. Keeps track in key. It seems like mixing in key is out the window without it since you got to pitch up and down, away from what you originally set out to do.

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PostPosted: 08 July 2010 - 23:08:42 (006)  Reply with quote
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You're right, harmonic mixing is pretty important - yet no trance DJ uses mastertempo.

Even if the keys are slightly off because you speed one track up by say 1.45%, it still sounds good, so don't worry too much about it happy

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PostPosted: 09 July 2010 - 04:46:37 (240)  Reply with quote
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Alright cool. I'll keep this in mind next time I record a mix and look forward to seeing the difference.

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PostPosted: 11 July 2010 - 01:05:21 (087)  Reply with quote
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I don't use it.

The only people I've seen use it are a hand full of house DJs
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PostPosted: 19 September 2010 - 23:37:54 (026)  Reply with quote
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Master tempo seems to take up a lot of processing power on the CDJ's which creates all sorts of clipping & difficulty beatmatching when using it. I haven't used it in ages now, it might be a little better if only a small fluctuation in BPM (ie if you are trying to key lock a 140 bpm track playing at 138BPM). I can't remember now, I don't like this function.

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PostPosted: 26 September 2010 - 07:30:06 (354)  Reply with quote
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A good rule of thumb is that if you pitch the track by less than 3% in either direction, keep the same key. If you pitch it more, then the key changes.

If you're using the Camelot system it means you should either add 7 or subtract 7 from your current key, depending on whether you pitched up or down.
Meaning that if you're in 4A then it would be 11A pitching up and 9A (or 10A? I'm tired) pitching down.

I'd rather design my tracklist with this in mind, than use mastertempo. Especially on the CDJ2000, where MT actually makes the tempo change a little bit all the time, effectively making your mix sound like shit. I believe Pioneer's working on fixing that, apparently they changed algorithms from the CDJ1000 MK3.

If you want to know more about how tempo affects the key, there's a great post about it on the Mixed In Key forums.
http://community.mixedinkey.com/Topic.aspx?ID=1767
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